Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Pub sales soaring despite ban on smoking

Nuff said. Presumably the silent majority of non-smokers who previously didn't like going to pubs are coming out to drink.

There are cautionary words about rural pubs in the article, which only appears to canvass opinion and statistics from the pubs in Scotland's cities. We went in a couple of rural pubs this weekend, and our limited experience indicates that there will be a trade off between regular smoking (and drinking) clientele and passing trade, often consisting of families with children, who are more likely to eat in pubs with the smoking ban in place. That was certainly our experience, as we were with a family with a child who would have sought out different places to eat if the pubs had not been smoke free.


Blogger michael the tubthumper said...

i am all for banning smelly horrible habits that cause pollution, bad smells and direct and indirect deaths

lets ban driving

Tuesday, April 11, 2006  
Blogger Cliff said...

Many villages in this area have only one pub, many have lost their's as conversion to residential is so much more attractive than running a precarious rural business. I fear the closure of rural pubs, which are so much more than just a place to drink will be the result here too. Excluding smoking locals so that seasonal family visitors can enjoy a sanitised macdonalds atmosphere will mean everyone loses, but mostly the local community. Another policy from city based politicians hammering rural areas. I don't smoke but there's nothing I give a wider berth to than pub with a 'family's welcome' sign and a fibreglass dinosaur in the garden, but alas that seems to be the future.

I trust you had a good weekend bondcouple.

Tuesday, April 11, 2006  
Blogger BondWoman said...

Thank you very much, Cliff. Yes, we had a lovely weekend. I didn't want to come home. The photos, which we will doubtless upload to flickr, will demonstrate that the weather was largely wonderful. Anyway, back to the topic in hand. Fair points, Cliff, but I don't think that catering to a wider audience necessarily means producing an identikit lacking-in-atmosphere pub. The ones we visited in the Oban area this weekend are cases in point. But I recall the conversation we had with the then (I think now departed) landlord of the Craven Arms in upper wharfedale (scroll down a bit to find the Craven Arms) a couple of years ago were a case in point. He was somewhat scathing about the benefits of the local clientele, who - he said - spent hours at the bar smoking and nursing a half pint of ale, and positively discouraging outsiders from approaching the bar. Bit harsh maybe, but you are also a bit harsh on the topic of city/rural relations. Neither of us has a monopoly on the truth!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006  
Blogger Cliff said...

I'm not harsh about city folk themselves, just about all policy- making being with cities in mind, an inevitable consequence of an urban based party being in power. A place like Richmond and surrounds relies heavily on tourism, a reliance which was all too clearly shown back in 2001 when the countryside was closed to visitors. I do see both sides and I hope I don't come across as thinking I have a monopoly on the truth.

I think mrs Cliff and I may be heading up to Scotland's northwest some time so I certainly hope there are some characterful pubs left - Mrs Cliff is entirely in favour of smoking bans so I know I am probably on the losing side of this argument, certainly in my house!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006  

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